LM2596,用环形电感还是屏蔽电感好?

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 楼主| ddb_21ic 发表于 2008-9-5 00:53 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
从示波器看似乎没有多大区别<br />搞不懂电感
 楼主| ddb_21ic 发表于 2008-9-7 15:37 | 显示全部楼层

郁闷,看来问题太简单了

  
awey 发表于 2008-9-7 23:04 | 显示全部楼层

有直流成分的地方,慎用磁路封闭的磁芯电感

  
 楼主| ddb_21ic 发表于 2008-9-8 01:10 | 显示全部楼层

TI TL2575好像说“toroid core inductors are the best choice”

APPLICATION&nbsp;INFORMATION&nbsp;(continued)<br /><br />Inductor<br /><br />Proper&nbsp;inductor&nbsp;selection&nbsp;is&nbsp;key&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;performance-switching&nbsp;power-supply&nbsp;designs.&nbsp;One&nbsp;important&nbsp;factor&nbsp;to<br />consider&nbsp;is&nbsp;whether&nbsp;the&nbsp;regulator&nbsp;is&nbsp;used&nbsp;in&nbsp;continuous&nbsp;mode&nbsp;(inductor&nbsp;current&nbsp;flows&nbsp;continuously&nbsp;and&nbsp;never<br />drops&nbsp;to&nbsp;zero)&nbsp;or&nbsp;in&nbsp;discontinuous&nbsp;mode&nbsp;(inductor&nbsp;current&nbsp;goes&nbsp;to&nbsp;zero&nbsp;during&nbsp;the&nbsp;normal&nbsp;switching&nbsp;cycle).&nbsp;Each<br />mode&nbsp;has&nbsp;distinctively&nbsp;different&nbsp;operating&nbsp;characteristics&nbsp;and,&nbsp;therefore,&nbsp;can&nbsp;affect&nbsp;the&nbsp;regulator&nbsp;performance<br />and&nbsp;requirements.&nbsp;In&nbsp;many&nbsp;applications,&nbsp;the&nbsp;continuous&nbsp;mode&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;preferred&nbsp;mode&nbsp;of&nbsp;operation,&nbsp;since&nbsp;it&nbsp;offers<br />greater&nbsp;output&nbsp;power&nbsp;with&nbsp;lower&nbsp;peak&nbsp;currents,&nbsp;and&nbsp;also&nbsp;can&nbsp;result&nbsp;in&nbsp;lower&nbsp;output&nbsp;ripple&nbsp;voltage.&nbsp;The<br />advantages&nbsp;of&nbsp;continuous&nbsp;mode&nbsp;of&nbsp;operation&nbsp;come&nbsp;at&nbsp;the&nbsp;expense&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;larger&nbsp;inductor&nbsp;required&nbsp;to&nbsp;keep&nbsp;inductor<br />current&nbsp;continuous,&nbsp;especially&nbsp;at&nbsp;low&nbsp;output&nbsp;currents&nbsp;and/or&nbsp;high&nbsp;input&nbsp;voltages.<br />The&nbsp;TL2575&nbsp;and&nbsp;TL2575HV&nbsp;can&nbsp;operate&nbsp;in&nbsp;either&nbsp;continuous&nbsp;or&nbsp;discontinuous&nbsp;mode.&nbsp;With&nbsp;heavy&nbsp;load&nbsp;currents,<br />the&nbsp;inductor&nbsp;current&nbsp;flows&nbsp;continuously&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;regulator&nbsp;operates&nbsp;in&nbsp;continuous&nbsp;mode.&nbsp;Under&nbsp;light&nbsp;load,&nbsp;the<br />inductor&nbsp;fully&nbsp;discharges&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;regulator&nbsp;is&nbsp;forced&nbsp;into&nbsp;the&nbsp;discontinuous&nbsp;mode&nbsp;of&nbsp;operation.&nbsp;For&nbsp;light&nbsp;loads<br />(approximately&nbsp;200&nbsp;mA&nbsp;or&nbsp;less),&nbsp;this&nbsp;discontinuous&nbsp;mode&nbsp;of&nbsp;operation&nbsp;is&nbsp;perfectly&nbsp;acceptable&nbsp;and&nbsp;may&nbsp;be<br />desirable&nbsp;solely&nbsp;to&nbsp;keep&nbsp;the&nbsp;inductor&nbsp;value&nbsp;and&nbsp;size&nbsp;small.&nbsp;Any&nbsp;buck&nbsp;regulator&nbsp;eventually&nbsp;operates&nbsp;in<br />discontinuous&nbsp;mode&nbsp;when&nbsp;the&nbsp;load&nbsp;current&nbsp;is&nbsp;light&nbsp;enough.<br />The&nbsp;type&nbsp;of&nbsp;inductor&nbsp;chosen&nbsp;can&nbsp;have&nbsp;advantages&nbsp;and&nbsp;disadvantages.&nbsp;If&nbsp;high&nbsp;performance/quality&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;concern,<br />then&nbsp;more-expensive&nbsp;toroid&nbsp;core&nbsp;inductors&nbsp;are&nbsp;the&nbsp;best&nbsp;choice,&nbsp;as&nbsp;the&nbsp;magnetic&nbsp;flux&nbsp;is&nbsp;contained&nbsp;completely<br />within&nbsp;the&nbsp;core,&nbsp;resulting&nbsp;in&nbsp;less&nbsp;EMI&nbsp;and&nbsp;noise&nbsp;in&nbsp;nearby&nbsp;sensitive&nbsp;circuits.&nbsp;Inexpensive&nbsp;bobbin&nbsp;core&nbsp;inductors,<br />however,&nbsp;generate&nbsp;more&nbsp;EMI&nbsp;as&nbsp;the&nbsp;open&nbsp;core&nbsp;does&nbsp;not&nbsp;confine&nbsp;the&nbsp;flux&nbsp;within&nbsp;the&nbsp;core.&nbsp;Multiple&nbsp;switching<br />regulators&nbsp;located&nbsp;in&nbsp;proximity&nbsp;to&nbsp;each&nbsp;other&nbsp;are&nbsp;particularly&nbsp;susceptible&nbsp;to&nbsp;mutual&nbsp;coupling&nbsp;of&nbsp;magnetic&nbsp;fluxes<br />from&nbsp;each&nbsp;other&nbsp;’&nbsp;s&nbsp;open&nbsp;cores.&nbsp;In&nbsp;these&nbsp;situations,&nbsp;closed&nbsp;magnetic&nbsp;structures&nbsp;(such&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;toroid,&nbsp;pot&nbsp;core,&nbsp;or<br />E-core)&nbsp;are&nbsp;more&nbsp;appropriate.<br />Regardless&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;type&nbsp;and&nbsp;value&nbsp;of&nbsp;inductor&nbsp;used,&nbsp;the&nbsp;inductor&nbsp;never&nbsp;should&nbsp;carry&nbsp;more&nbsp;than&nbsp;its&nbsp;rated&nbsp;current.<br />Doing&nbsp;so&nbsp;may&nbsp;cause&nbsp;the&nbsp;inductor&nbsp;to&nbsp;saturate,&nbsp;in&nbsp;which&nbsp;case&nbsp;the&nbsp;inductance&nbsp;quickly&nbsp;drops,&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;inductor&nbsp;looks<br />like&nbsp;a&nbsp;low-value&nbsp;resistor&nbsp;(from&nbsp;the&nbsp;dc&nbsp;resistance&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;windings).&nbsp;As&nbsp;a&nbsp;result,&nbsp;switching&nbsp;current&nbsp;rises&nbsp;dramatically<br />(until&nbsp;limited&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;current-by-current&nbsp;limiting&nbsp;feature&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;TL2575&nbsp;and&nbsp;TL2575HV)&nbsp;and&nbsp;can&nbsp;result&nbsp;in<br />overheating&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;inductor&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;IC&nbsp;itself.&nbsp;Note&nbsp;that&nbsp;different&nbsp;types&nbsp;of&nbsp;inductors&nbsp;have&nbsp;different&nbsp;saturation<br />characteristics.

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不错,很有参考价值。  发表于 2013-1-3 11:22
 楼主| ddb_21ic 发表于 2008-9-8 01:34 | 显示全部楼层

看到前几年“关于环形变压器问题”里面的讨论

我没看过电磁理论基础的书,理解不了。<br />从TI的叙述来看,任何电感只要饱和了,电感看起来就像个很小的电阻,开关电流就会上升。但是对于Buck形电路,电感饱和了之后,通过电感(小电阻)给Cout充电,电压很快达到开关阀值,此时开关应该关闭(我猜的),这样问题只是在下一个周期开关打开前,Cout上的电压下降过多。<br />如果电感的额定电流足够大,是不是就不会出现饱和的现象?<br />出现饱和,是不是就是纹波电压过大?<br />实测纹波电压很小(15mV&nbsp;@&nbsp;LM2596-5.0),是不是就没有其他问题了?
 楼主| ddb_21ic 发表于 2008-9-8 01:38 | 显示全部楼层

computer00说的:

作者:&nbsp;&nbsp;于&nbsp;2006-7-21&nbsp;9:38:00&nbsp;发布:<br />因为EI型的变压器等有类似气隙的东东,饱和时问题没那么严重<br />能量可以存储在气隙中。此外环形变压器的磁路较短,损耗也小。<br /><br /><br />
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